New transaction: fee on security

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Some securities charge regular fees. E.g. Xetra-Gold ETC, DE000A0S9GB0.

Each quarter Xetra-Gold ETC, hold in a securities account, charges a (e.g.) 0.1% fee. These fees are charged by bank from corresponding deposit account.

Where is no way to reflect this kind of transaction in PP.
As such expenses are not reflected in the trade profit/lost calculation (per trade / position /security), and other related calculated values.

Now, I am booking such a fee on the deposit account, this cause fee to be reflected correctly on depot level, but missing on trade level.

(I suppose , that a reverse operation - a “Fee-Refund” should be possible to book to, but for now I do not have case for this.)

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The second answer is answering your situation, followed by some arguments:

Make use of the search feature would have been way faster than I.

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I seen it. It is a different case.
No shares are sold in my case. Only fees collected.

You can’t sell 0 (zero) shares in PP to book a fee.
Over time rising fees decrease profits on trade.
PP is unable to reflect this case on trade level.

E.g.
When you hold DE000A0S9GB0 you pay a fee quotely. The security DE000A0S9GB0 chareges this fee directlly through bank/broker.

2025-01-01 buy 80 DE000A0S9GB0 for 100$, transaction fee 10$
2025-03-31 security fee 800.001 = .8$
2025-06-31 security fee 800.001 = .8$
2025-09-31 security fee 800.001 = .8$
2025-12-31 security fee 800.001 = .8$
2026-01-01 sell 80 DE000A0S9GB0 for 101$, transaction fee 10$

Trade profitability:
80*(101$-100$) -10$ -10$ - 4*.8$ = 60$ - 3.20$ = 56.80$

These 3.20$ PP is unable to represent correctly ON TRADE LEVEL, because you can’t book a fee without buying or selling some shares. (Buying or selling ZERO shares is also impossible.)

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How does reality looks like? Where is the money coming from to cover your fee?

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From corresponding deposit account. Like by buying.
(In my particular case, from my current bank account.)

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You can book fees on any cash account and associate it with the particular security. Menu Bar → Bookings → Fees

Absolute Performance will reflect fees.

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You are right, you can book it! :slight_smile: I tried it (latest PP).
BUT the fee is reflected only on account level, not on trade level, especialy performance numbers. :frowning:
This is a bug report, not a feature request.

And, please, add it to security context menu (right click).

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You could named it bug, but it isn’t.

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I can’t rename it.